missingache: ([116] As this promise)
Roxas ([personal profile] missingache) wrote in [community profile] retrospec2018-04-17 12:03 pm

Help? [Screened from Sora Pu'uwai]

Shiori Pu'uwai
4/17/18 near Tisse
So I've got a bit of a problem. These memories we've been getting showed me there's these creatures I used to deal with called Nobodies. It's weird, but they don't have hearts, but they look human. Most of them. Some are really weird looking gray monsters. There was guys in black coats too that were Nobodies. They were the human kind. I don't get why they looked human but the monster ones didn't.
I was good about ignoring the memories until I remembered that I'm apparently one of them??? And it's making me wonder how we can tell if we have hearts in the first place? Not the beating in your chest to keep you alive kind. What's the point of a heart since emotions are chemical reactions? Is not having one okay?



My biggest question is: how do I tell my twin that I'm not human and we're not related in a way that won't make them have a complete breakdown???
lostapprentice: (b: okay but what if you did)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you assuming that whatever you were in those memories defines who you are now?

[It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to him. Kylo Ren murdered people, but that doesn't make the current him a murderer.]

if he's your twin, you're related.
lostapprentice: (b: uh huh.)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
there are plenty of people on this app who aren't human anymore. it's less of a concern than you'd think.

[He says, still being human.]

being twins now doesn't mean you've always been related in every life you've ever had.
lostapprentice: (b: lineface)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
let go of your assumptions that what you were is what you are now. or that it's what you have to be.

so you're not identical anymore, i assume because of changes from retrospec. that doesn't erase that you were presumably raised together and born to the same parents.
nachetanya: (Blackrock Mountain)

[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-17 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hurtful to people (and yourself!) to imagine you aren't related. You shouldn't do that.
lostapprentice: (b: this is a very serious conversation)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[That's Ren's usual M.O.: trying to help and failing spectacularly. But Shiori's statements are starting to hit in a particularly sore spot, and so he's even less likely to be tactful than before.]

in my memories i murdered an entire village and tortured a man for information. are you telling me that's the truth, instead of the life i've lived here? are you so ready to believe everything you've ever said or done is fake just because of a few nonsensical visions you've gotten over a few months?
meowchanics: (ztd: phd in everything)

[personal profile] meowchanics 2018-04-17 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, maybe I'm missing something here. Why tell them anything?
At least until you have a better idea of what it means. For either of you.
lostapprentice: (b: grandma face)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's something he has no problem admitting because of his determination to not be the same person. It's part of why he's so vehement about arguing with people who think they are.]

so do my sword and mask. but the memories being real doesn't make us any less real as we are now. our existence isn't mutually exclusive.
nachetanya: (Ravages of Marxism)

[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Would it?

I mean, if it does, and you're not hurt by it, by all means! But it seems extreme to me.
meowchanics: (vlr: thinking)

[personal profile] meowchanics 2018-04-17 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Would it really be a secret? You're saying you don't know how to broach this topic with your family, and you don't want to hurt them by saying the wrong thing... You're just giving yourself time to figure it out. There's nothing weird about that.
Besides, you might remember something that puts everything else in a different context. Or so I hear.
nachetanya: (Toddler-esque)

[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-18 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
The people that love you, I'd assume?
nachetanya: (Reign of Chaos)

1/2

[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-18 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
[ . . . ]
nachetanya: (and the Undine)

[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-18 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, but that's for them to answer, isn't it?
lostapprentice: (b: worth a shot)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-18 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
then don't. keep your mind on the present and don't concern yourself with what the memories might "mean."
gunsandveggies: (✿ 60)

[personal profile] gunsandveggies 2018-04-18 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
[This is like that vision with the blonde girl... Oh, Shiori.]

What does it mean to not have a heart?

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