missingache: ([116] As this promise)
Roxas ([personal profile] missingache) wrote in [community profile] retrospec2018-04-17 12:03 pm

Help? [Screened from Sora Pu'uwai]

Shiori Pu'uwai
4/17/18 near Tisse
So I've got a bit of a problem. These memories we've been getting showed me there's these creatures I used to deal with called Nobodies. It's weird, but they don't have hearts, but they look human. Most of them. Some are really weird looking gray monsters. There was guys in black coats too that were Nobodies. They were the human kind. I don't get why they looked human but the monster ones didn't.
I was good about ignoring the memories until I remembered that I'm apparently one of them??? And it's making me wonder how we can tell if we have hearts in the first place? Not the beating in your chest to keep you alive kind. What's the point of a heart since emotions are chemical reactions? Is not having one okay?



My biggest question is: how do I tell my twin that I'm not human and we're not related in a way that won't make them have a complete breakdown???
lostapprentice: (b: okay but what if you did)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you assuming that whatever you were in those memories defines who you are now?

[It doesn't seem like that big of a deal to him. Kylo Ren murdered people, but that doesn't make the current him a murderer.]

if he's your twin, you're related.
lostapprentice: (b: uh huh.)

[personal profile] lostapprentice 2018-04-17 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
there are plenty of people on this app who aren't human anymore. it's less of a concern than you'd think.

[He says, still being human.]

being twins now doesn't mean you've always been related in every life you've ever had.

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[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-17 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hurtful to people (and yourself!) to imagine you aren't related. You shouldn't do that.
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[personal profile] nachetanya 2018-04-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Would it?

I mean, if it does, and you're not hurt by it, by all means! But it seems extreme to me.

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meowchanics: (ztd: phd in everything)

[personal profile] meowchanics 2018-04-17 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, maybe I'm missing something here. Why tell them anything?
At least until you have a better idea of what it means. For either of you.
meowchanics: (vlr: thinking)

[personal profile] meowchanics 2018-04-17 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Would it really be a secret? You're saying you don't know how to broach this topic with your family, and you don't want to hurt them by saying the wrong thing... You're just giving yourself time to figure it out. There's nothing weird about that.
Besides, you might remember something that puts everything else in a different context. Or so I hear.

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gunsandveggies: (✿ 60)

[personal profile] gunsandveggies 2018-04-18 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
[This is like that vision with the blonde girl... Oh, Shiori.]

What does it mean to not have a heart?
gunsandveggies: (✿ 42)

[personal profile] gunsandveggies 2018-04-18 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
But that's not right. You feel emotions, don't you? I've seen you both happy and sad, and you're frustrated now, right?

Can you really say you don't have a heart right now?

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[personal profile] angealwings 2018-04-18 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
If the memories had told you things the other way around, that your twin was one of the Nobodies. Would you think them not related to you?
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[personal profile] angealwings 2018-04-18 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
But not simply because he was that, am I correct?

Do *you* wish to not be related to him? Because it wouldn't be you choice if the roles were reversed.

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[personal profile] compendiem 2018-04-19 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
"Hey Sora, I'm not human and we're not related in any way."

[personal profile] compendiem 2018-04-19 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not the same as a complete breakdown. You don't think he'll bounce back from it?

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[personal profile] diamant 2018-04-19 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
it sounds more like you're talking about a soul than a heart maybe
the sort of thing that makes you human
separates us from the dogs, i think it's said?
if that's the case then i think it's what you make of it
whether you officially have one or not isn't really anyone's business
except yours i guess
if it upsets you that's a different thing maybe
does it?
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[personal profile] diamant 2018-04-19 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
it sounds confusing to be fair
but if you're feeling things then i think you're probably okay
assuming you want to feel things
from the sound of it you do
i suppose i just don't see much reason to argue it too much
if you're feeling things and okay with that does it really matter why
whether it's a heart or otherwise

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[personal profile] doesntdiscriminate 2018-04-21 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
big>If we're not talking about a literal beating heart, and emotions are just chemical reactions, what is it you actually mean when you talk about having a heart?

Are you thinking you're not related because of the memories you've had and the changes those might have caused in you? Because if so, that's bullshit! Firstly, I'm pretty sure you're still related. Secondly - and more importantly - even if you're not, that still shouldn't matter. You're still twins, you're still siblings! Genetics doesn't make family.

As for telling them you're not human, I guess that depends on if they're on here or not. If they are I'd suggest being open and honest with them about what you remember and any changes that's happened. If they're not I'd suggest you start with figuring out a way of proving what you're saying is real and not just in your head.