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Literature Review
Hitori Togusa shared a photo.
8/11 near Apprassage
Catcher in the Rye, in English. Retrospec sent me this one a while back, but I had to read this thing in high school. World lit. Hated it then, but apparently it's important now.
It bothers me that I'm starting to understand it on a re-read. Holden has absolutely everything going for him, but chooses to try as hard as he can to not engage with society around him. Back in high school, I thought it was just a morality tale, a spook story for kids, scare them into figuring their lives out or turn out like him.
And then we all get dropped into a situation where it would be so easy to do exactly what Holden wishes he could. To decide that this life doesn't matter, and turn yourself deaf-mute to the implications. But even that wouldn't get him what it wants, would it?
Question one is, what keeps you going? Keeps you paying attention to the world around you?
Second question comes back to Retrospec's latest game. Anybody else get a jigsaw puzzle?
"Turn him to any cause of policy, the Gordian Knot of it he will unloose, familiar as his garter."
Henry V, Act 1 Scene 1. The Archbishop describing how much Henry has changed as soon as he had to take the throne, going from a layabout of a prince to a sharp statesman of a king. It's really just a framing scene, telling the audience about the time that passed between plays. Odd quote to pull out.
So the last question is, what does that mean to anybody else?
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It must be just as mystifying to them.
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The question becomes, then, whether we are the strawberry or the nettle.
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But me?
Henry couldn't have become great if he hadn't put aside his childish ways, given up his life from before. But who the hell wants to be King?
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I would much prefer fulfilling my own personal goals than believing my purpose is to fulfill goals imposed upon me. I would have to imagine being royalty is exhausting.
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I don't know how they handle it, let alone how we're supposed to.
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A terrible weight has been levied on too many of us. One need not be royal to understand that. It is something that you have known for some time, after all, is it not?
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I know it's true, but I think I have, personally, gotten off easy. The other Togusa doesn't seem to have a whole world resting on his shoulders.
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The weight of the world is unreasonable to bear, yes. I am glad that there are some here who are in your position, truly, though others may view your "luck" with bitterness. If you are able to devote less energy towards reconciling these differences, you can do more to yield productive results.
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But once this is over the leadership of Retrospec needs to answer for what they've done, too. I'm not wavering from the plan of eventually bringing them to justice. It will have to wait until whatever this is has finished. The worlds have been restored. Whatever.
That's why I've been keeping some of this to myself. I want to help without alienating people.
What about you, though? I guess, how high are the stakes in what you're seeing?
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I am not certain what the stakes are in the life of the gynoid in my memories. I have gathered that humanity lives on the moon, and that those bound to the earth send supplies up to them. There appears to be a war on the surface in which she is a combatant. An especially effective one, at that.
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That world. It sounds fantastic and horrible at the same time. But I have to ask. 'Gynoid?' Logic would say it's female 'android,' switch up the root word. But how much do you know about what that means?
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There's, in the other Togusa's world, a group of completely non-humanoid robots. Wouldn't qualify as androids. And they are also weaponized. But all their voices are pitched to suggest a feminine quality. It's strange.
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Most of the androids I recall specifically have been designed to look female. Perhaps their creator had a type. Either way, yes, it is extremely strange.
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[Even though person isn't the right word to use, but figuring out what are the right words to use is turning into half of the issue for Togusa.]
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I do not know. But whether she has been programmed to do what she does or has learned it, she will have a very difficult time overcoming the mind of a human being who has existed for far longer than she.
That may be straying slightly from the point you are trying to make.
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But your point stands. You remain yourself, even with her memories encroaching.
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And then, much of the technology I've been seeing has been human augmentation. That line between cyborg versus android I was talking about. When you are already mechanizing humans, why do you need completely artificial humans as well?
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My apologies. I know you likely do not have these answers. The subject of the third World War is one of intense interest to me, which is perhaps understandable.
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The micro-machine technology that makes up internal cyberization for people, that had to have been developing at the same time as the war. Japan had a solution for nuclear fallout that was using the same technology as a delivery system. Not inside of people, but dispersed in the atmosphere.
That's pretty much all I know. Guessing similar events didn't turn out as well for her?
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Which, at this point, may be rearranging cause and effect. War brings the sharpest of minds to the forefront, does it not? Death is the mother of invention.
I do not know how events turned out with this android. I know very little about her and the world in which she lived, and none of it is particularly useful.
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I'm open to hearing anything that you do remember, if you're open to sharing. Sometimes it helps to just say it out loud to another person and get you out of your own head and your own assumptions of the worst.
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I am not certain how much there is to share. This android is ruthlessly efficient at killing machines. She was being Operated by someone, in all likelihood, but I do not know by whom. It is possible the answer is no one, and she merely has functional knowledge of what Operators are, as I do.
There is also a flower that she finds extremely important in some way that is not directly related to her. It does not exist in this world, and I doubt very much it exists at all when there is so little information about it in her memories.
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[gdi, Togusa, of course that's what you focus on.]
She does have emotional attachment to things, then. Especially if it's not real, is it something from a story maybe? Maybe she's more complex than you're giving her credit for so far.
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