Oh shit...the latter is hard enough, but INSIDE your mind?
That's...that's is freaking OP.
Oh, well...hopefully that just means both sides are shades of grey but both do some good...cause a super villain that can screw with your mind like that is HORRIFYING!
The memory I have where I met him, he
just seemed to want to talk to me. Which, is a relatively reasonable
approach, even if doing so in a mindscape instead of face-to-face is a bit
extra.
But yeah, until I remember what was
going on, I'm not going to speculate on who's right or who's wrong. I have
pretty much no idea at the moment.
True, but if you could just knock into someone's mind, would you bother using a phone?
Although, I would also find it creepy is someone could just pop inside my head whenever the hell they want. So both sides make sense to me.
Fair enough, of course it doesn't matter for the now, it's just facinating to think about who we were before and how similar or diffrent we are to our last lives.
I don't know if I think it's
fascinating, exactly. I'm curious, that's for certain. But a past life is a
past life. I don't think we should be comparing ourselves too closely, even
if we have the same soul still.
It's not like my current life is bad. Or that my past life was just so amazing. But even though we both only have one parent... she's actually close with her dad.
All we can be is just ourselves. The us that exists in this world, at this time. We just try to be the best version of us that we can manage.
And maybe it's idealistic, but everyone can be a hero. Maybe not the saving the world kind (though we kind of are with the whole Stop Vanderweele thing), but you don't have to do something big to be a hero.
Yeah...find our inner light, and try to get rid of the stuff blocking it...
It might be, but I want to belive it...and maybe we don't need to save the world(okay, vanderweele, yes, but OTHER then him), maybe it's just something in our hearts, the desire that we want things to be better, and honestly try our part to make it that way.
I think the people we call heros, are those that do more then they need to...and since we have power we could definatly do that if our heart was in it.
Doing more than necessary is certainly good. But I think it's possible to just be doing your everyday thing and still be a hero. It's all about how you perceive their actions. Someone grabbing a kid out of a road. They don't think about it, they just do it. Someone is struggling with something heavy, they just help. They don't see it as something extra. It's like you said, you try to make things better.
But yes, I agree about powers. People with powers need to use them responsibly.
I suppose so...I'm not so sure about small things, Rescuing a child, sure, helping someone who is struggling...
Couldn't it be argued that people do that just because they suspect it might indirectly help themselves? Or maybe that person might help them later? Does that still fit in the category?
Oh yeah, Cause power in the wrong hands just makes life worse...and gosh I've seen people be horrible with it.
Self-serving people will be their own undoing in the end.
What I mean is, we can't put narrow boundaries on what makes someone a hero, because it's often from the perspective of the person who has been helped. You can't dub yourself a hero. It has to be someone else.
Be their own undoing? Are you putting self-serving in the same bin as evil?
Not sure if this makes sense but, say someone is struggling, another helps, maybe they do it in the hopes that they might gain a friend that way, or helping someone else helps them help themselves while geuinely hoping for that person's happiness. Does that make it any less good then someone who just wants someone else to be happy?
I do sort of agree with the last bit, if someone were to come up to me and just claim they are a hero, sounds like ego stroking to me, even if they are objectively doing good and what not. But the example above might complicate that.
[Asking for a friend, not because he sees himself this way at all...nope nope nope]
I didn't say anything about people
being evil. That's something completely different.
Let's look at your example from the
reverse. Say you're the one struggling with something, and the other person
helps you because they hope to get something out of it from you. Is that
taking advantage of someone in a difficult situation? Could be. But let's
be specific about what you mean by 'hope.' Do you mean 'expect' or do you
mean 'wish'? Because wishing is fine. But expecting is not.
So selfish people ar there own undoing, while good counters evil?
Hmmm, that is a good question, I think if it was "wish" then it's not, because sure, they think there is a chance there is something in it for themselves, but they are also spending time and resources that could guarantee self-interested goals rather then helping someone else which MIGHT advance similar goals.
Obviously, someone that helps with no thought of benefit is the gold standard and those people are probably unquestionably heroes but unrealistic to hold yourself to that standard all the time.
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That's...that's is freaking OP.
Oh, well...hopefully that just means both sides are shades of grey but both do some good...cause a super villain that can screw with your mind like that is HORRIFYING!
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The memory I have where I met him, he just seemed to want to talk to me. Which, is a relatively reasonable approach, even if doing so in a mindscape instead of face-to-face is a bit extra.
But yeah, until I remember what was going on, I'm not going to speculate on who's right or who's wrong. I have pretty much no idea at the moment.
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Although, I would also find it creepy is someone could just pop inside my head whenever the hell they want. So both sides make sense to me.
Fair enough, of course it doesn't matter for the now, it's just facinating to think about who we were before and how similar or diffrent we are to our last lives.
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I don't know if I think it's fascinating, exactly. I'm curious, that's for certain. But a past life is a past life. I don't think we should be comparing ourselves too closely, even if we have the same soul still.
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Makes for interesting conversation, if say, a villain in the last was a decent person here, or a hero in the last might not be so noble.
Not to mention what they have seen and the lessons they could apply to this life because of the last.
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Learning from one's past life is definitely something to take advantage of, yes.
But then sometimes I start feeling jealous and that's just... not productive.
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...Fair...I've been a bit guilty about that too...
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Both of us were poor as dirt. When fate kicked him down, someone picked him up and he grew to be a hero...when fate kicked me down...I was alone...
and...I'm just me...
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And maybe it's idealistic, but everyone can be a hero. Maybe not the saving the world kind (though we kind of are with the whole Stop Vanderweele thing), but you don't have to do something big to be a hero.
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It might be, but I want to belive it...and maybe we don't need to save the world(okay, vanderweele, yes, but OTHER then him), maybe it's just something in our hearts, the desire that we want things to be better, and honestly try our part to make it that way.
I think the people we call heros, are those that do more then they need to...and since we have power we could definatly do that if our heart was in it.
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But yes, I agree about powers. People with powers need to use them responsibly.
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Couldn't it be argued that people do that just because they suspect it might indirectly help themselves? Or maybe that person might help them later? Does that still fit in the category?
Oh yeah, Cause power in the wrong hands just makes life worse...and gosh I've seen people be horrible with it.
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What I mean is, we can't put narrow boundaries on what makes someone a hero, because it's often from the perspective of the person who has been helped. You can't dub yourself a hero. It has to be someone else.
[Kyotaro would disagree, but he's an oddball]
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Not sure if this makes sense but, say someone is struggling, another helps, maybe they do it in the hopes that they might gain a friend that way, or helping someone else helps them help themselves while geuinely hoping for that person's happiness. Does that make it any less good then someone who just wants someone else to be happy?
I do sort of agree with the last bit, if someone were to come up to me and just claim they are a hero, sounds like ego stroking to me, even if they are objectively doing good and what not. But the example above might complicate that.
[Asking for a friend, not because he sees himself this way at all...nope nope nope]
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I didn't say anything about people being evil. That's something completely different.
Let's look at your example from the reverse. Say you're the one struggling with something, and the other person helps you because they hope to get something out of it from you. Is that taking advantage of someone in a difficult situation? Could be. But let's be specific about what you mean by 'hope.' Do you mean 'expect' or do you mean 'wish'? Because wishing is fine. But expecting is not.
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Hmmm, that is a good question, I think if it was "wish" then it's not, because sure, they think there is a chance there is something in it for themselves, but they are also spending time and resources that could guarantee self-interested goals rather then helping someone else which MIGHT advance similar goals.
Obviously, someone that helps with no thought of benefit is the gold standard and those people are probably unquestionably heroes but unrealistic to hold yourself to that standard all the time.