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[recollecters]

Looks like some of you have been pretty busy. Mostly for the better, I think. I hope. I've been talking to past employees, tracking them down now while things are falling into place. They still don't really know about their past history with the company, but the knowledge was still there if you can believe that. Ask a few questions, you can bait anybody into answering. I can go into details later for anyone who's curious, but I'll keep this short and sweet. With the next string of programming and adjustments, we can have three tries to check into alternate timelines. Nothing will stick during those trials, but let's think about it this way. Check out a chain of events, see how it pans out, close the loops to make it a new reality. When everything became about actual reality-bending, I'm not sure. I don't think this is what any of us signed up for, but what's done is done. Mr. Murdock raised an interesting proposition that I think is worth considering. And a few other have, too, you know who you are. So the question is: what chains of events can we all agree on? A check is just that. It checks how things might go without actively ruining everything…I think. The power used might downgrade the more we check in which is why three's the limit, but the potential's there which is probably better than anything else. Talk it through and get back to me. It's your future. You should get a say in it at this point. Zee Carlisle Hiring Manager Retrspec Incorporated Characters' display names are the same as whatever has been previously chosen and are permanently locked in! Please feel free to use this post as a network mingle. Every toplevel can be considered a new post, and threadjacking is permitted. No NPC response will be given, though you're free to hit up his individual inbox later. As a friendly reminder, you may also claim one of this month's freebie by submitting a thread from this mod post. This thread must be 10 comments from you and submitted before AC closes.

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un: anna amarande

[hauntedsavior]

Whatever chain of events lets me keep this stack of eight years of letters from my sister that I didn't know I still had.

Weird thing to bring up, but it feels... important right now.

Anyway. What's everyone else's plan? Because I don't know if I can stick with the killing Vanderweele plan if we have to worry about timelines and shit.

[maidofmistakes]

I don't know. Killing someone like him is one thing... I just want to stop him and keep people safe. That's all.

[hauntedsavior]

Yeah, I think that's where I'm at, too. We have way too much at stake to risk killing him in the past. Is there even going to be a city if he doesn't get to play a part in founding it?

No matter how fucking psychotic his part is.

[maidofmistakes]

Yeah. Changing the past never goes well. We kinda had to fix that once in my old life.

[dereban]

I'm going to echo that killing him is kind of a bad idea - that basically doesn't make any of us better than he is, and even more than that if anybody tries anything to ruin his life in the past?

That will definitely fuck up our present, since it'll 100% change the events in the timeline completely.

[hauntedsavior]

Yeah. I think Zee talked me out of doing it. And not that it matters, but when we come out the other side of all this shit, I'm gonna make time to talk about false equivalency with you.

Right now we have other stuff to worry about, though. Like if we can all agree on "killing him is a bad idea", what are the good ideas?

[dereban]

And thank fuck for that. Since killing him doesn't make any of us better than he is.

Good ideas are hard to come by but ultimately pan out to: do something in the present by utilizing the information from the past without messing up the past timeline.

un: rinaks

[psykick]

Where to start is the question. We've got three chances. So maybe we should pick a time point close to the present, like... when Vanderweele wiped all the Retrospec employees. And then the other two tries could be further back?

[hauntedsavior]

It's worth a shot. I got the idea that he didn't have to fuck with anyone else because every time he changed the past, the present changed so it was always the case.

If he suddenly had to wipe everyone at Retrospec, how close were we getting to stopping him?

[psykick]

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Wiping everyone seemed really drastic, so we must have been as close as we've ever gotten.

Re: un: anna amarande

[blondferret]

What do you think will happen if we remove him from the timeline? And like, find a way to lock him up? But we would have to choose what point in time we would remove him from.

[hauntedsavior]

Someone else takes his place. Zee tells me he's got his shit locked down. He's got backup plan after backup plan to the point where just killing him isn't going to fix it.

Loath the fuck as I am to admit it.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa I've already settled on one plan. And it doesn't look like anyone else's idea will interfere with it. We added a piece to the Retrospec Contract that, in theory, shouldn't affect anything until the present day.

[hauntedsavior]

Yeah? What'd you put in it? How's it gonna change things?

Un:Al

[flametheif40]

Three tries to change everything for the better? Gosh...I guess we better make it count.

How much can we bend things? or more importantly, what are we going to shoot for? We need to keep goals in mind.

I don't want our struggles and growth to be for nothing, but if we can get an edge on vanderwheel, end this fight and the company treats us as equals, as partners instead of subjects and ideally those who dropped the app can come back...

I think I would be game for that,

what do you guys think?

Re: Un:Al

[psykick]

I'm not really sure where to start, is the problem?

Like, how do we even go about all that? Zee says we can try changing something in the past, but what could we change?

[flametheif40]

I honestly have no idea.

Maybe hiding something in the past so we can find it in the future? Or if money is an issue to rebuild the company from scrap, but, you know, better, maybe we could go back in time like...a hundred years, open up stock thing or whatever, then bam, we have enough money for the resources we need to build everything up again.

I think those would be the two things off the top of my head of how we can make now better but keep all the growth so the future will be better?

un: malik

[godcards]

Go all the way back to the beginning for all I care. You fix one thing, it'll just ruin something else.

Re: un: malik

[standalonehuman]

What if we try to change something in the past, but what we changed won't kick in until the present day, or, shortly after now?

[godcards]

Something will still get messed up along the way? I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

Forget it, it'll just start another argument and no one will listen to someone that's in the minority anyway. Ugh.

Re: un: malik

[blondferret]

What if we just remove him from the timeline? Pick a specific point in time, kidnap him, and lock him up.

[godcards]

That's not removing. Considering how hard he is to capture now, I doubt that's be effective.

[blondferret]

What about preventing Vanderweele from meeting that crazy Agatha lady who killed Spinnato's children? Personally I think is has involved in it too. That was the reason he was removed from he company. So what if we just take away (not necessarily kill the reason that probably made him go psycho?

[invocate]

Wasn't Vanderweele in a relationship with Agatha? What makes you think it's her fault he's the way he is? How do you know he's not the reason she killed those children?

What came first? Agatha's employment with the Spinnato family or her relationship with Vanderweele?

And didn't Vanderweele want to get Spinnato out of the way because he knew Spinnato wouldn't agree with his plan to use soul energy?

That being said, I think the murder of the Spinnato twins is something we could look at. It's what I ended up talking with Zee about in the past.

[blondferret]

questioning what came first:Agatha's employment with the Spinnato family or her relationship with Vanderweele, is a valid point.

What did Zee say about the past?