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Recollé Mods ([personal profile] recollecters) wrote in [community profile] retrospec2019-06-01 05:23 pm

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Three options for you.

1.) We test the timelines based on the ideas of people who went backwards and checked into things. You know who you are. Like I said before, we have three tries to check to try and improve the situation.

2.) We just charge straight ahead and hope for the best.

3.) We actually come up with a plan with volunteer basis, split you guys into groups, and proceed from there.

As I've mentioned, Mr. Murdock raised a proposition of having volunteers for the Retrospec project to prove themselves to Vanderweele and get him to back off the project. Mr. Togusa changed the contract in the past that Retrospec will go public, more or less, when the first world has reached full completion. Ms...Anna (Anna it's too weird to call you by something proper) has volunteered herself to jump forward to a degree where she's regained her abilities, powers, and strength.

So if you see double, don't be alarmed.

Here's the thing. No matter what path we take, it's always been the same. The end has always been about stopping Vanderweele's influence over the city and shutting down his power. While there are a lot of ways we can do that, it's always been that ultimate goal to get the city back to what it was. Release people memories. Adjust everything. All that. The pieces of the puzzle finally fell into place to give us a clue of what we're supposed to do here.

Under the ocean there's a base in a trench hidden away. The further you go, the less the water appears. It's displaced, but the pressure of the ocean itself might kill you before you get down there unless we loosen the binds.

We have two objectives here: destroy the eye that's feeding his defenses in the city, and destroy the base in the ocean to siphon his power out and stop what's been started.

Pick a side. Once you know your strengths and weaknesses, we'll have a better sense of how to attack and take him by surprise.

Got it?

Fixing the city? That's "finishing" its regrowth. And taking away his power means sending memories and energy back to where it belongs.

This is going to be the last thing I'll ask of you guys. So...think on that.

Zee Carlisle
Hiring Manager
Retrspec Incorporated

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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-02 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
WOOOO! Wait "something" for what they have done?

Look, they have done shady shit, I agree, but trying to punish Retrospec above all else?

How would the law even begin to enforce whatever ruling they would dish out, when, arguably, whatever the law has could very well be a result of whatever Retrospec did!

Not to mention, they have time travel and can alter reality, supposedly the things that happen to us, like October was their "mistakes"

What if they actually meant to do us and the city harm?
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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2019-06-02 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
They did mean it. Whether by malice or by sheer ignorance, they meant to do harm. And boy have they done it.

But my job is to collect evidence so that the justice system of Recolle can make the determination. I trust in that system to be able to get a resolution, once they can see everything that has happened to everyone in this city.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-02 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that is no doupt, harm they did.

Even if we buy the good reason of restoring worlds, bringing souls back from the brink and all that jazz, harm was done along the way. Intentional or not.

I'm just not sure if the law CAN handle this, if one technicality goes wrong, Retrospec could just get a slap on the wrist and just do this again.
Edited 2019-06-02 02:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2019-06-02 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
The only other option is to do nothing. And, it isn't as if the law only gets one pass at them. Separate cases can be brought up for weapons distribution, telecommunications violations, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, commerce violations, labor violations.

Turns out being responsible for the surgical removal of someone's eye or limb counts as assault.

And then, compound it with a minimum of 400 civil suits eligible to be brought up by everyone who has ever been on the app. Each of which is going to have to be tried separately because the level of harm done to, for example, myself, versus James Barnes? Can't be counted on the same scale. So they can't wrap us up into a class action.

There are a lot of chances for the law to get it right.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-02 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
No, we have other options, if we can find a way to tip the balance of power so it's roughly even, they will naturally have to regard us as equals.

They NEED us, this entire shit storm, proves it, that we can make them bleed if we put our minds to it like when Zee was killed, proves it.

I alone, could probably raze a good chunk of the city, but as long as I control my own hands, I won't, because here is my home, my family, not because the law tells me not to.

The law, can't be our only option, there MUST be something else we can do to give them some more than just the law holding them back from doing more harm.
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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2019-06-02 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
What balance of power? Sure, they need volunteers if they were going to keep operating. But the entire point is to stop this from continuing.

Let me rephrase it, then. The law is my only option. Not only is it my job, this is the thing I believe in above all else. And it's one of the things that the other Togusa and I seem to agree on. No matter which way you look at the existential question surrounding this, I would be doing the same thing.

This is what I've worked on since the second I found myself on the app. Everything was leading to this point.

As a civilian, I know that you'll feel differently. People outside the system will of course feel more powerless about a process like this. But you're going to have to trust us. You'll get your day in court, too.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-02 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
[Al...has conflicting emotions about this, but, he can see where Togusta is coming from and takes some deep breaths before typing. Normally, a stance like he is taking would just enrage him, but...Togusta does see how someone can feel powerless, and this is personal...so, Al will be upfront about it, He's already taken quite a lot of hard hits, what's one more if this goes sour?]

You really worked that hard on this? and the law means that much to you?

This might be childish, but I was burned by the law when I needed saving, it's only because of people, that I am here, instead of just another number or another prisoner that you would hardly question why I was there.

If you really worked that hard...thank you, your one of the good ones I wish I met years ago, but I can't ignore the failings of the law.

I've seen criminals get away from justice and in both this life and the last, I had to trust in my own hands to get things done when the system failed.

If I come off as an ass, I'm sorry, but do you see where I'm coming from?
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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2019-06-02 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I can only apologize on behalf of others, then. I am so sorry the system has failed you that hard.

I can understand if you think the law isn't good enough for Retrospec, but please, really consider the alternative. What other action would bring peace to the hundreds of people that Retrospec's actions have harmed?

It's why I think just going after Vanderweele is so empty and hollow. The dozen or so of us left might be all right with that action. But once everyone else knows what has happened, it'll then leave them powerless to do anything.

With this, everyone gets their voice heard. Within a system, yes. But they will be heard.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-03 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I can forgive them...but thank you for understanding.

What could the law do to give them that peace? When they might not even remember? All the years James lost when he came back to life? What can ANYONE do that could replace everything he lost, let alone everyone else?

This isn't just something the law isn't equipped for, WE aren't equipped for this either, I don't know what I could do to undo all the shit that went wrong, hell, I have my own shit I need to undo and I barely know how to do THAT.

Taking Vanderweele down, even if we kill him, get the company back or whatever, might not solve every problem, but it's the one I can do SOMETHING about.
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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2019-06-05 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
James has always been a soul screaming at the world for someone to just listen. The worst thing Retrospec did to him wasn't take his arm, it wasn't to put him in prison, wipe his mind to make him a puppet, it wasn't even killing him. It was make no one believe him.

To be heard, after all this time, will bring peace to more people than you'd expect.


[A long pause.]

Malik says he's just after the payday, but I think he'll be happier from it, too.

As for Vanderweele, you know I have to do everything I can to bring him in alive.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2019-06-05 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
[Long pause]

I know how that feels like, I'm worried that like me, the wrong people will hear it and make things worse.

Or not believe us at all.


[After a sigh]

I didn't mean to imply that I ACTUALLY want to kill him. I meant, even if Vanderweele is gone and the company comes back, there are still problems to be dealt with that we can't really do much about.

The law, or whatever you guys wanna do after, I won't actively get in your way, but I'm not really putting my eggs in that basket either, if there is something I can do to help, sure, why not, I don't exactly have a better idea.

If I have to, I'll take him down. But there is a chance we can get more out of him alive, so, on that we agree.

Oh, we ALL deserve at LEAST a payday of some sort