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[recollecters]

hey, for the record we aren't keeping records on you through your electronics. they're useful tools sometimes but they're not required. mr. halloway wanted you (the people meeting at the utsuki dojos at 8pm on sundays) to know it's a nice effort but he still doesn't see any secret codes or handshakes so the meetings aren't spy-level enough to keep him happy yet. also he made me take notes on all of them. i don't really care about how spy-level they are, though. also the technicians managed to fix some things. Maurice Fitzwilliam Intern Retrspec Incorporated As of this post, the following changes have been made to the world: • Normal limes are available alongside the dancing variety. • Horse-related items such as horseshoes, bridles, and feeding bags. These items will still be regarded as unusual or fake by NPCs but will be available in various locations. • Visual media regains the color blue. This applies to all forms of film whether watching on-screen, online, or reviewing videos PCs recorded prior to the loss of color. Please note this is only videos, not pictures. Please feel free to use this post as a network mingle. Every toplevel can be considered a new post, and threadjacking is permitted. No NPC response will be given. Usernames are the character's full real AU names, not aliases or chosen nicknames or usernames, and seemed to have filled themselves in; nothing characters do can change or obscure their names currently.

Comments

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Those photos came from places and vantage points where people physically couldn't be. Those videos were slapped together wholesale, from footage that didn't actually exist.
Hitori Togusa They're not hacking the phone cameras, they don't have a drone army, they're not even hijacking our own vision.
Hitori Togusa So what's left?

[rygdea]

Fynn Izunia Magic? Like I don't even know...

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa You or your brother ever remember anything about, what would it be? Illusion magic? Like that barbarian movie.
Hitori Togusa You ever remember how that works, you let me know.
Hitori Togusa I figured out a way they could have done it with tech, but they still need a person to be the camera for them.

[crushcard]

dystopian police state.

[rygdea]

Hold up, bucko! The Boys in Blue have nothing to do with this!

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Despite the fact that we're all wearing grey now, I'm going to have to agree with my colleague here.

[crushcard]

No offence meant, just merely pointing out the similarities in dystopian police state literature.

[crushcard]

I never said that. I was merely implying that this was straight out of a dystopian police state trope.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Do you want this one? Can I take this one? If you really want it, I can let you have it.

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee I stand by my theory of us inside of a computerized world.
Yoon-sung Lee It's easy to capture images from impossible angles when you are in a game, so the same can be applied for this.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa I hate that I'm starting to buy this theory.
Hitori Togusa Or, at least, that the world we are seeing is controlled or amalgamated in some way. They have enough global control to take shots from anywhere.

Hitori Togusa Forget 'why are they doing it' for a second. Why tell us about it?

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee Why the hate though?
Yoon-sung Lee It might not be logical, but it's not improbable given the evidence we have right now.

Yoon-sung Lee They might not have complete control over how the information is getting out, so we're the test subjects.
Yoon-sung Lee Or maybe we were starting to see the cracks in the programming and they are covering their asses.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Accepting that someone has that much control over objective reality is not a comforting thought.
Hitori Togusa See, I would go into that, except for Retrospec's seeming ability to control when we remember things. Sometimes. There is certainly some free recall, which would put the control in our hands. They don't have control over us, we see the edges of the programming, okay.
Hitori Togusa But then how come they could just give out 'hey, remember something' as a prize in a game?

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee The thing about reality is that not one group of humans can point at something and claim it is completely real.
Yoon-sung Lee I wonder if it's a partial control. There seems to be a kind of trigger for some memories on our end. They might have a better control over what they let us remember but most of the hallucinomemories are random.
Yoon-sung Lee It's like how I can enter a game someone is running with one of my avatars, set up a mission for them and then reward them if they complete it.
Yoon-sung Lee Not everything that they do is something I can plan out or foresee but I can make sure that if they hit the goal given - even if the method is totally not what I expected - they still deserve that prize.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa That makes too much sense. I'll agree, reality is subject to perspective, opinion. You'll act on what you believe to be true. And that doesn't always overlap with what everyone else believes.
Hitori Togusa Retrosepc's point, in a way.
Hitori Togusa They don't care how or when or what order we remember things in, just that we DO. Get the quest rewards in any order.
Hitori Togusa So. Let's say this was your game. As you claimed before to represent the 'rich jerk hacker' demographic that we think is running this. What's next? Because I think I know where this is going.

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee That's why we have so much problems in society tbh.
Yoon-sung Lee Exactly. We just need to get the points and not really finish the quests exactly how they think they need to be done.
Yoon-sung Lee What's next? As a rich jerk hacker, I'd cut off what you think you need to survive.
Yoon-sung Lee Not food or water or that stuff necessarily.
Yoon-sung Lee But like communications with others or the ability to share information, or heck, toss all of you into a maze that you can't signal out of.

[standalonehuman]

[This is Togusa staring at his screen for a few minutes, because what the hell, Yoon-sung? And yet, what if he's right on the money?]

Hitori Togusa Do I get to ask why?
Hitori Togusa I mean, we've been running on the idea that this is all an experiment, but it's a social one.
Hitori Togusa Taking the 'multi' out of the MMO there? What behavior are you looking for then?

[vendettastool]

[ Yoon-sung has been thinking about this. Sorry Togusa. ]

Yoon-sung Lee Sure.
Yoon-sung Lee Think about it for a minute.
Yoon-sung Lee You have a group of people that is using the system to jump over obstacles using the 'multi' features of the system.
Yoon-sung Lee They're able to redirect their forces, or share information that shouldn't be shared, or even use the platform to attack in ways that they shouldn't be able to.
Yoon-sung Lee So you cut them off and you try to see if they are able to solve the problem without outside influences.
Yoon-sung Lee Or you attempt to show them that they need to focus on using what limited skills they have available to solve the problem and not take it to the rest of the 'multi' persons there.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Oh. Going back to stricter enforcement of the rules.
Hitori Togusa Make sure everyone only gets credit for what they've done.
Hitori Togusa Keep somebody (I wonder who could have done this) from posting the walk-throughs or quest locations in the chat.
Hitori Togusa We still need each other, but everybody has to put in the work, by themselves.
Hitori Togusa I repeat that it irritates me that this is making sense.

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee Yes.
Yoon-sung Lee Bending the rules is okay once and a while, but if the users are always doing it, you'll want to see how and why and how to fix it.
Yoon-sung Lee Which means limiting how things are done, and isolating the cause before exercising it.
Yoon-sung Lee You can't fully ban them - maybe it is a beta test and you need the information for later security patches.
Yoon-sung Lee But you can certainly restrict them into making choices or how they access such choices.
Yoon-sung Lee It does sound a little too real like that, doesn't it?

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa So if we're the players. We need to keep getting creative, then, hunh?
Hitori Togusa I'm still trying to duplicate the only glitch we've found so far.

[The one Yoon-sung himself showed him. The one Togusa still doesn't understand the significance of. Why is the building only there sometimes?]

Hitori Togusa Even the GMs can't control what we do offline. Not really.

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee That's right.
Yoon-sung Lee There's a lot of talent in potential within our group, we just haven't really gone with just using that talent.
Yoon-sung Lee Yeah, that was a one shot glitch and I think that they might have noticed someone cracked it and covered it up.

Yoon-sung Lee True, but they are definitely going to step up matters.

[standalonehuman]

Hitori Togusa Hell. I guess we're going to need to keep trying new things, then. Figure out what they haven't thought of to cover up.
Hitori Togusa Thanks again for your help so far.

[vendettastool]

Yoon-sung Lee Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, right?
Yoon-sung Lee I try.