manufactured: (001. your world is an ashtray)
Albert Wesker ([personal profile] manufactured) wrote in [community profile] retrospec2018-03-12 12:50 am

005. Text // my world is unaffected

It's been some time since Retrospec has properly dropped some sort of identity crisis on us, though I suppose it's good to know that we're getting a bit more information out of them now than we were in the past; I'm in no way looking down on small favors and silver linings. Just the same, I wonder for the time being where that leaves us - I know I've asked a few of you about this in the past, and I'm sure that a fair amount of you have made your decisions regarding it since.

I suppose what I want to hear is your thoughts on these people you're receiving memories of, whether you consider them "you" or otherwise - do you still think of them as a separate person from yourself or do you consider them to be the same as "you", and why you've come to feel that way. I'm not going to argue for feeling one way or another on the matter, I'm just wondering how you've come to see these people that technically don't exist anymore.

Of course, if you reject this entire matter completely and just consider this to be an example of some corporate entity you hate ruining your life for no apparent reason, that's likewise fair.

I've formed my own views on this fairly recently; I tend to find it calming, having some sort of conclusion that I can accept as reasonably true for the time being. It's not always convenient, but it's calming.
thesettingsun: smile (some great white rose of youth)

[personal profile] thesettingsun 2018-03-12 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Past me becomes more embarrassing with every memory I get back.

My feelings haven't changed much. I can't separate him completely from myself, but just accepting him as 'me' feels like it would keep me from trying to be a better person than him, or at least make it more difficult.

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godcards: (01.)

[personal profile] godcards 2018-03-12 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
There's no sense of connection of me to this other me, past or otherwise. Regardless of what I'm told, it's been months and my feelings haven't changed on the matter. I'm interested in potential abilities but not the actual past life aspect.

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sivard: (☁ i may not be the chosen one)

[personal profile] sivard 2018-03-12 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
A few months ago, I would have told you my past self and me now are two different people, and that would be the end of it.

Now? I'm not so sure. There's a whole lot less "him" vs "me" and more just "me."

Not entirely, but right now I feel like most of the discrepancies can be summed up by my still being mostly human.

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[personal profile] livingimpaired 2018-03-12 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
[ Oh, so this is how he can -- thank you. He ignores the panic he had with Oda to talk about himself. ]

I said at the start that I would see no difference in the person I will remember and who I am. I feel it is silly to go back on that.

But the person I remember is a dick. I do not use such words lightly, and I rarely ever insult anyone, but I find myself to be evil in thought and just a poor human in action.

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[personal profile] impulsives 2018-03-12 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
to be honest, it's kind of complicated. my past self is everything i admire, but at the same time, while i admired the kind of life my past self led, that doesn't necessarily meant i want to live it completely.

if anything, i'm still kind of scared by these memories, to be honest. they serve to me as a reminder on what my path could be if i went in another direction completely.

still, to be honest, if i were to put it in my past self's words from what i remember of him so far... my current life would probably be his dream life.
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[personal profile] feistytrader 2018-03-12 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Those memories are mine. I don't know exactly when I went from contending with that to being comfortable with it, but understanding my past motivations was definitely a deciding factor. I've always wanted to surpass the guy in my memories. Now it's a different framing, and with a better understanding that I was a stupid, frustrated kid and not just some intense and fearless cool guy.

But regardless of my opinion on the matter, I want that world in my memories to exist again. I don't want all the people in it to disappear forever, even if they wouldn't be the same and probably wouldn't like me.
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parodeity: len-yan @ tumblr (AJ 🎧 why is he a model)

[personal profile] parodeity 2018-03-12 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
the dude is me just a little chronologically earlier
as the dude in charge of bullshit time travel my opinions of my own chronology are probably a little unique though

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vitis: (this is cuter without context)

[personal profile] vitis 2018-03-12 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't view him as "me," not really
he's more just an example of how i could've been if my circumstances were different

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[personal profile] onemillion 2018-03-12 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The memories all feel too real to be dismissed so easily, but I'm not sure I'd call the person in them "me". I know they're supposedly our past lives, but it's hard to reconcile that sometimes, especially considering how different the world the other me came from seems to be.

But in all fairness, I haven't remembered all that much yet, so my opinion's bound to change at some point.

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[personal profile] destiny_key 2018-03-12 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
idk about other people but
i guess i dont really see a difference between him and me at all

that other me is just a past life
or at least thats how i think about it
its still me
just a different me

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[personal profile] standalonehuman 2018-03-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Despite everything that Retrospec has been saying, I know the man I'm seeing is not me. It doesn't make any sense for that to be true, philosophically or biologically, or from any perspective I can discern.

I respect that a lot of other people have a different perspective, and if they are instead getting some inspiration from what they are seeing? Learning what they think they can become? Then I can support that.

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thebeastwithout: (I am so cool)

[personal profile] thebeastwithout 2018-03-13 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
man my past self was way cooler than who i am now
i mean the one down side is that i keep turning into more of a weirdo freak but like
i'm ok with being him!!!

if he could do it then so can i
he's done all the stuff that i always dreamed about

like that's kind of inspiring or whatever

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[personal profile] elevelvetor 2018-03-13 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
[ ...mm. this is a difficult topic for her, and she's biting her thumb before she reponds ]

i find it more comfortable to refer to her as someone other than myself, though i'm aware that isn't entirely true, either...
but for the sake of myself and relationships she had, and that i have, i think it's for the best to differentiate the two of us
and i still believe that who we are now is more important than who we were--i would like to take lessons and such from the memories i've remembered, but i don't wish to let them define me or others
does any of that make sense?

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[personal profile] dulynoted 2018-03-13 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
An important question.

[ Which, he shouldn't be surprised given how this man originally piqued his interest. ]

Neither theory has any more basis than the other. From what I'm understanding, it's mostly personal preference based on memories and experiences. Ones that you might find less agreeable could make you want to distance yourself from them and think of the person in your memories as some "other", while if you're seeing things that you like or want then you'll be more inclined to align yourself with that person.

Also, whether or not these memories exist as remnants of a past life in our souls or if they're purely fabrications by Retrospec is up for debate.


[ Of course, that doesn't answer the question. ]

My own thoughts are undecided. I'm waiting for more evidence to sway my opinion. I haven't found merit in analyzing the situation by prescribing to one theory or the other yet, but I'm open to change.

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stressweets: Each of my friends has taught me something different about myself! It was their unique gifts and passions and personalities that helped bring out the magic inside of me! (043. the cutie map)

[personal profile] stressweets 2018-03-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I can't be the same person in my memories, because he's a lot more confident and rich and talented and everything than I am?
But I want to be!
Ah, within reason, I guess. I'm still not really interested in what he was learning, and he had completely different friends...
Personality-wise though, I think I'd be really happy. Even if I've been told that I'm perfectly fine the way I am... It's not really how I want to be.


[ It'd be nice if he could stop being such a nervous, anxious mess around people and fucking up perfectly good moments, after all. The him in his memories doesn't seem to have that issue at all. ]

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frostythehitman: (these wounds they will not heal)

[personal profile] frostythehitman 2018-03-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
whatever i think of the past me and whether or not i'm really him changes day by day
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[personal profile] mincingminuet 2018-03-13 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I've thought a lot about that. This is a good question, Mr. Wesker.

My answer is no, that person is not me.
I don't reject that person, Penelo was her name. I think she was a good person who was doing things for the right reasons. But she cannot be me.

Why? Because I think that without the experiences I've lived, the ones I've had, that she cannot. Even if I remember her entire life, gain all of her possessions, I still remember everything from this life.

Thus, I'm becoming something more than her.

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[personal profile] ohrlyeh 2018-03-13 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
i shudder to think that that man is real

and i do not want to become him in any capacity even though retrospec thinks otherwise

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[personal profile] twostringsonebow 2018-03-13 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
[... Difficult. Something he's barely talked about with the people close to him, though he has always felt it easier to open up to those he doesn't quite know; Wesker edges more on the latter, but it's still very much a public forum, so he decides his words carefully on the matter.]

While I would like to differentiate myself from the young man in my memories, circumstances prove it to be rather impossible, in terms of duty. My personal feelings have no bearing on it whatsoever.

[He doesn't have much of a choice; that person may not be him exactly, but feeling the things he did and knowing what he does guilts him far too much to be able to think that he's free to live his own life without consequence. For the most part he can! There's plenty he can do! But he's just as shackled to the past as the other him was.]

But, since you did ask, I think I may have discovered a new form of self-loathing.

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[personal profile] wordcarvings 2018-03-13 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I consider him me as such, but we have similarities. Too many similarities to be completely different people. I do think that some of the memories are very important, and would not want to forget them.

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[personal profile] coinflipped 2018-03-14 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The more I'm learning about this 'other me' the more I'm finding I disassociate myself with him.

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dejerate: (I don't know how)

[personal profile] dejerate 2018-03-16 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hadn't really thought about it. How or if I consider them 'me'. I mean. I guess, same soul or whatever, just. Very different circumstances. How I grew up, here, in comparison to all that. I mean. I guess so far? I can sorta see to piece things together that yeah, I probably would be pissed and upset about even half of what I remember happening.

What about you? What was your conclusion?

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[personal profile] blessmefather 2018-03-16 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
[ Hi "Stranger" ]

I was firmly against believing the memories were real and that we were once those people but my opinion has since changed. There are so many similarities I couldn't continue denying it. His shortcomings and mistakes, while painful to remember, are ones I know would be within my capability if I was pushed into the position he was in. It has been educational.

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gunsandveggies: (✿ 42)

[personal profile] gunsandveggies 2018-03-19 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how to describe it. I view her as myself if I grew up with different circumstances. She's who I am in another life, wherever Retrospec pulled our souls from. Her circumstances and her life are completely different from mine.

She could never be me, and I could never be her.