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Kiyotaka Ishida | Moral Compass ([personal profile] steadycourse) wrote in [community profile] retrospec2018-08-11 12:17 am

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I'm assuming that others also received a word, mine is 'beta!' I'm still uncertain what that really means, but maybe we should do a tally and go from there!

Anyway, I do have two other questions that I wish to ask! So, I'm going to ask!

Question 1: Has anyone heard of the name 'Kiyotaka Ishida?' I assure you that is not my name, I'm Kiyotaka Ishimaru, but I've been getting strange messages about him! From what I've gathered, he's a college student with blonde white hair.

Question 2: How would you define a 'moral compass?' Is it really possible to be the um, best in that? An ultimate moral compass??
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-12 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Supposedly I'm a beta too...

Some other guy was going off about Omegas being a bad thing...

Nitemares apparently


Kiyo...oh gosh...Is it okay if I call you Kiyo? or Ki?

I don't think you can have the "ultimate moral compass"

Can one compass point north better then another? Well one can NOT work but I don't think you can gauge it, especially if morality is relative.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-12 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know either...but I did manage to get him to say that Omeags would have horrible nightmares bad enough that they would want death.

So we have to look out for those poor souls!

Why look to the law for morality at all? What is legal, isn't necessarily moral.

Is it a good idea to follow the law, yes, but if you asked a criminal. They would tell you the problem is that they got caught, not that what they did is wrong.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-12 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! Geez, as if we have enough to worry about without bad nitemares!

Oh I'm not saying they are useful, I'm pretty sure even a theif would say laws are freaking useful, but I don't know if they would say they are moral.

There is the whole "what if a thief stole because he was poor" the law doesn't really solve why he got poor and desperate in the 1st place. The order it brings is to ensure people don't abuse another TOO much...

By law, I don't HAVE to help anyone. But if someone never once ever helped another we would call them an asshole but we don't write laws forcing them to help another do we?
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-13 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But there isn't! That's the point!

Then you have people who are hungry enough to steal! and if they keep stealing as a way of life; Do you think they would/could stop, if they suddenly weren't poor anymore?

Would you think anyone would care, if they stole again?

Illegal DEFIANTLY! Are they immoral? I don't think so.

I honestly don't have the answer for ya. But, if you were to help other people so much that you couldn't take care of yourself, or those around you...wouldn't that be a bad thing?

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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-23 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
If there were more people that cared, I don't think we would be having this conversation.

But I don't think you need to sacrifice your life to help others, how would you find happiness, if you were only concerned about others?

Can you imagine...doing something for so long that you just do it out of instinct? You don't barley think twice about it and BAM! You already did?

I imagine that's how thieves might be too, if they had to steal for soo long, could they just simply stop? After all, they could find themselves being poor again and that skill, for better or for worse, kept them alive.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-25 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, how to find that balance though? Might morality be balancing those two?

I of course want to help people when I can, but when does it become too much? Or how do we know when our help does more harm then good despite our intentions??

Yeah, it is. I just don't think we could understand how hard it is unless we were in their shoes. For better or worse, they are alive because they stole, or broke the law just to survive...not for some fancy stuff...

ya kinda get what I'm saying?
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-27 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
That would be assuming that people always know what they need and to what degree they need it, I guess people telling us would be alright, but I don't want to hurt them in the 1st place.

I'm sorry that I'm not exactly helping with your question, I wish there was an easy answer I could just give ya.

or a answer for that matter
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-28 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't mind me asking, why such an interest in not just being moral but THE MOST moral?

For me, I figure if you are doing alright then that's good enough. If your an angel that's even better and something to inspire others to be good.

And hope I am being helpful, I'd hate to think I'm just wasting your time.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-29 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, hmmm, I think just be context. I think that might mean that you were incorruptible and your word was your bond sort of deal.

I don't know how I feel about our other selves, but I think it's neat that you found something from your other self that you liked and are trying to emulate it.

Though, I don't think its a bad thing if we were to deviate from those...after all I'm pretty sure all of us have gone through things our other-selves wouldn't have.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-30 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe your answer might more grounded in that. Like, being honorable, making sure that everyone gets the best from you.

If you always do that, can anyone ever say your immoral?

That's his life though, if you remember it, then I guess the only thing you can do is learn from it. But I don't think you should judge yourself based on that one.

I don't know to much about mine, although I assume he is one tough(possibly crazy)customer. My 1st memory was being smacked by an elephant, set on fire and slamming into a wall, getting up, fully intending to fight it.
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-08-31 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Good enough :)

My other self, I honestly don't have too many memories about him.

I was part of something called the Fog troop, no idea if they were good guys or bad guys. Just that he was passionate about defending them. Got his ass handed to him by some purple haired guy who was a legend.

Other then random fragments, that's all I really got. I have been on the app for...two, three months maybe?
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-09-02 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not everyone did. We just told tell stories about the boring ones.

And yeah, it would be nice to know more about him. But I'm far more interested in knowing more about his fire magic and how I can use it myself. Because I can use that to influence the here and now. Ya know what I mean?
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[personal profile] flametheif40 2018-09-03 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
People I care about yes. Which right now, the list isn't exactly that long. Hopefully that list gets bigger over time.

[Considering he just figured out he loves his adopted family(of 2 years), small is an understatement ]
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